[14]  What the Hell is Gehenna? Why does God permit Demon Possession? Universal Salvation: God will save each and every one of us, for God is love and love is salvation

Gehenna is the Hebrew word for Hell. Mankind's attempts to understand the nature of Hell are classic examples of how imperfect and incomplete our thought processes are as a race and as individuals. To set the scene we have the Catholic church filling the western world with guilt and fear for 1900 years, by telling us that we would physically fry in hell if we did not join up with them and pay lots of money to the Pope. The majority of our dear brothers and sisters in faith believed this and joined up. Today the Catholic church is physically the world's most successful Christian church with around 900 million members worldwide. The Catholics have given us a Hell of eternal torment, eternal punishment, eternal burning and eternal physical pain. They came to this conclusion from scriptures such as Jesus' parable of the Rich man and Lazarus:

24 So he called and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this blazing fire.'
25 But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that you received in full your good things in your lifetime, but Lazarus correspondingly the injurious things. Now, however, he is having comfort here but you are in anguish.
26 And besides all these things, a great chasm has been fixed between us and you people, so that those wanting to go over from here to you people cannot, neither may people cross over from there to us (Luke 16).

43 And if ever your hand makes you stumble, cut it off; it is finer for you to enter into life maimed than with two hands to go off into Gehenna, into the fire that cannot be put out (Mark 9).

We have not researched the precise road that Catholic thinking took, but plainly if one is thrown into a fire that cannot be put out and if one is separated from others by a chasm that one cannot cross, then things are not looking very good.

But the thing about being a Christian and about knowing and loving God is this... It is more than an academic understanding of scripture. It is the academic understanding of a book written by the very definition of love. So the book must always reflect God's love. So one Charles Taze Russell, whom the US press dubbed: The man who put the fires out in hell, having founded the Watchtower, and having a better understanding of his father than the Catholics, asked the following type of question:

Would it be fair or just or loving to punish a man into eternity for sins which he committed over a period of a mere 70 years? The conclusion that the founder of the International Bible Students, known today as the Jehovah's Witnesses, came to was this:

A God that would use his power to create human beings, whom he foreknew and pre-destinated should be eternally tormented, could be neither wise, just nor loving. His standard would be lower than that of many men (Kingdom Proclaimers book).

This type of reasoning is the triumph of love over dogma, it is the triumph of wisdom over doctrine. For at first sight the scriptures do appear to support an eternal torturing of the unrighteous, yet Jehovah is the one who makes it rain on the righteous and the unrighteous alike whilst they are alive, and his son advised us to...

44 However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you;
45 that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous (Matthew 5).

When a warm and gentle breeze blows across a Mediterranean beach on a summer evening does it miss out the cheeks of the wicked and only caress the faces of the righteous?

And what kind of a God commands us to love our enemies and pray for our persecutors, only to burn these very same people for an eternity in Hell himself after we have loved them and prayed for them? Would he frustrate the very love he commanded us to show for them? God would be asking us to love somebody whom he himself failed to love. That is rank hypocrisy. Further he would command us to love somebody and then destroy the very love he commanded us to show, by removing that person from existence?

So Charles Russell taught that death was simply a state of non existence, and that the wicked were switched off and thrown away permanently without pain.

5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten (Ecclesiastes 9).

3 Do not put your trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish (Psalm 146).

Jehovah's Witnesses believe this today. But even though Charles Russell's thinking was good, and even though his thoughts moved mankind a step nearer to God's love. The journey to understanding how deep and how true the love of God is, requires a few more paces than he was able to make. Paces of the mind that is. For all our thoughts are imperfect and all our conclusions are incomplete at first. For how we think is how we walk, one step at a time, and that is the divine brilliance and consistency of our design. The physical being a mirror of the intellectual.

Does the 'modern artist' who throws paint all over his canvas and then exhibits it in the Tate Modern, actually create art or is he merely demonstrating how high his status is in the art world by succeeding in having anything he does hung up on a wall?

Well, please brothers and sisters let us not be 'Modern art bible interpreters' in the sense of being sons of the 'Modern artist' who seeks status through arrogance or other abuse, rather than perfection through painstakingly hard work. When Mozart wrote his 3rd string concerto did he just pour out the whole score and then present himself with a medal? Or did he rather start with one melody or with one chord sequence or with one orchestration concept or with one musical phrase, and then slowly build it into a masterpiece, rejecting many many ideas and notes and phrases and orchestrations of such a quality that most composers never produce in a lifetime. Indeed if a composer today could just produce one or two of those rejected phrases, perhaps we'd have some music worth listening to? Or if a script writer today could just produce one or two of the phrases that Shakespeare rejected... The scene in the movie Shakespeare in Love when Jo Fiennes throws away the first act of Romeo and Rosaline, felt like a greater tragedy for posterity than the finished play was to its audience. To be denied a masterpiece from the hand of a writer who plainly sought perfection in his work, is to miss out badly. To be denied another piece of modern art, is frankly a relief and an escape.

We must therefore apply the same diligence to refining and refining our biblical interpretations as the great artists of our race have applied to their labours of love. And as the Americans would say we must correct our understandings, we must re-correct our understandings and then we must do it all again! We must revise and correct and refine them until they become masterpieces, our masterpieces, our Psalms to God, every bit as polished and every bit as perfect in form as a Concerto from Mozart or as a play from Shakespeare. Then we will see God's glory and reflect it to all those with faith and give what is his, back to him with a bit of our personality thrown in. The Lords' Witnesses have therefore become the church of the revised revised and revised understanding, the corrected corrected and corrected mistake. We are the church of the corrected corrected and corrected again doctrine and of the revised revised and revised again dogma. Rather than having Papal infallibility we have constitutional, congenital, bordering on institutional, priestly fallibility. Indeed any church which does not regularly revise its doctrine and its dogma is plainly not being lead by the Holy Spirit. For the Holy Spirit  moves church doctrine forwards - regularly!.

So here is the setting that the Holy Spirit used, to grow in us a glimpse of the love that God has for all of his sons and daughters, saints and sinners alike.

The writer was attempting to write a stage musical about the interaction between the heavens and the earth. He wanted to open up the invisible heavens for all to see. As he was doing this we were reaching the end of the first of the two Jubilees in the LWs (a total forgiveness of the sins of all LWs that occurs once every 50 months). A certain very young sister came up with the idea that since during a Jubilee, every disfellowshipped (excommunicated) LW had their sins forgiven by God, they would be automatically re-admitted to the congregation by God, and so would not need a baptism from any priest on earth to become clean in the flesh again. They would be returned to their previous baptismal estate without the need for a further baptism. So we researched this concept and found it to be true. We then wrote to several ex LWs and told them that due to God's love for them, they could be LWs again period without any discussion of their previous sin (should they so chose). We told them here is the position of God towards you. Here is the deal. God wants you back period. He does not care about your sin (relatively speaking). Believe us. He knows every single sin that you have committed. He even knows the sins that you do not know you have committed. But though his justice is perfect it is merely finite. Whereas his love is infinite. It is unbounded. It is larger than the universe, which is merely one manifestation of it. So when you see his heart clearly, you know that he cares only about you and nothing else - because he loves you. He is the one who invented love. He defines love. He created love. He understands love. He is love. He lives to love. He requires justice only because it is the best soil in which to grow love. He made justice for love. He did not make love for justice. so his love trumps even his justice. For there remain these 4: Faith, Hope, Love, Righteousness, Says Elijah4. But the greatest of these is love.  

10 And you must sanctify the 50th year and proclaim liberty in the land to all its inhabitants. It will become a Jubilee for you, and you must return each one to his possession and you should return each one to his family (Leviticus 25).

So every possession you have lost (in terms of real estate) is given back.Whereas every slave is freed and returned to his family every 7th year. It doesn't happen today. But it happened 3500 years ago. The Sabbath timetable of the LWs works in months rather than in years see U103.

This unconditional absolute love, independent of any sin, was a bit of a new concept for us. God was saying: Look, I want you in my family period. I am just not interested at all in how many sins that you may or may not have committed in the past. This amazed the writer, in particular because he had/has very loving parents, but even they got fed up with him when he behaved very badly. Really this was a new type of love for us. It really knocked the writer out. 

As a sequel to this, the same young sister, started thinking about why humans are condemned to everlasting death as a result of 70 years of sin (as we understood at the time), but Satan, who sinned in the Garden of Eden and who has been sinning for millennia since then, was still alive today!

She asked the writer the following type of question: If the first new covenant saints sin against the holy spirit during their baptism period they go to Gehenna right? So how come Satan isn't already there, because he has spent eons sinning against the holy spirit, yet he still lives? We should point out that this line of thought had been a fixation of this young sister's family, especially her father, since their baptism. 

Gordon initially thought that the sister was being unrealistic and had watched too many Cinderella movies! Gordon was at that time writing a lament about Satan from God's standpoint for his musical. The chorus started like this:

Its too late to say you're sorry, now the damage has been done,
Its too late to seek forgiveness now the kingdom has begun...

But every time he sang the chorus, which chorus is imagined to be sung by God in the Musical, it just did not feel right. It just was not the sort of thing God would say or sing! So he rewrote it as follows:

Its not too late to say your sorry, for the damage that you've done
Its not to late to say I love you to the highest holy one...

He then burst into tears, because this sounded like the God he was familiar with. This was the God he was singing about. This was the God he worshipped. So he then began believing that God maybe watched Cinderella movies too! 

When the writer was studying with the Jehovah's Witnesses, they told him that Adam was not going to be resurrected because Jesus ransomed Adam's kids, but not Adam himself, who had sinned against the holy spirit. This sin put Adam in Gehenna, so that Adam was now switched off permanently and had basically had his chips - he was told. This made the writer very sad, for he is a firstborn son himself. He could not see how God could just give up on his firstborn son like that after one screw up. Well, the LWs now know today that Adam himself is ransomed directly by Jesus, and that this is how his children are saved. God in a sense created this entire world to save Adam. God did not give up on his firstborn son Adam, no. He did not give up on Adam and he will not give up on you. Because love never fails neither in Adam nor in you and certainly not in God.

Rather, knowing in advance that Adam would sin, he built a 6400 kilometre radius planet which was eventually populated by 8 billion of his sons in order to save him. So now the writer asked himself the same question about Satan, who was certainly born before Adam. If God worked out and saw through to completion, a huge and complicated plan to save Adam, his firstborn human son, would he not be able to work out and see through an even more huge and even more complicated plan to save Satan, a son born even before Adam? (in fact Satan was God's firstborn angelic son - see Intro19). Perhaps a 15 billion light year universe was the length to which Jehovah was prepared to go to save his firstborn angel, Lucifer. What do you think?

Then the scriptures came flooding in, and the revised corrected thought processes began once more. Doctrinal somersaults were performed, and what was an imperfect and incomplete half interpretation of Gehenna began to approach art itself, even the art of God and the writer and the church began to see the perfect heart of our God.

19 But a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself according to day (literal) with magnificence. 
But a certain poor [one] named Lazarus had been thrown towards (used to be put at) his gate, having been ulcerated
and desiring to be filled with the things dropping from the table of the rich [one]. Yes, too, the dogs would come and lick his ulcers.
22 Now it occurred [that] the poor [one] died and he was carried off by the angels to the bosom of Abraham. Also, the rich [one] died and was buried.
23 And in Hades he lifted up his eyes, he existing in torments, and he saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in the bosoms of him.
24 So he called and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this blazing fire.
25 But Abraham said: Child, remember that you received in full your good things in your life, but Lazarus correspondingly the injurious things. Now, however, he is having comfort here but you are in anguish.
26 And besides all these things, a great chasm has been fixed between us and you [people], so that those wanting to go over from here to you [people] cannot, neither may [people] cross over from there to us (Luke 16).

Lazarus is in the bosom of Abraham, which means he is going to be resurrected into the Kingdom of God. But the rich man is in Hades and is existing in torments. There is a chasm between Lazarus and the rich man. Now Hades is the common grave of mankind, in scriptural terms Hades is any form of death. So Lazarus is afar off from Hades, in fact in the Kingdom of God at the table of Abraham Isaac and Jacob - eating the experiences that they eat in the university of the Kingdom of God. There is a chasm dividing the kingdom from Hades and Lazarus from the rich man. Now a man existing in torment cannot possibly represent a man who is permanently switched off. Existence cannot stand for non existence. So those who are not in the bosom of Abraham are indeed tormented and in anguish. The rich man is in Hades, which is either the first death (Sheol) or the second death (Hell) which is Gehenna in Hebrew terminology, a second or further state of death. In other words Hades is any form of death, first or second. It is rather like the word Israel, which can mean Israel or Israel plus Judah. Gehenna means the valley of Hinnom outside Jerusalem. This was a rubbish dump which was regularly incinerated. The bodies of criminals were thrown into this dump when they were not considered worthy of a dignified burial. The rich man is being tormented and so is no longer asleep. Lazarus is being comforted and is asked to visit the Rich man, and so is also awake as of course is Abraham who is talking to the rich man. So everyone has been woken up which is their resurrection. The rich man is resurrected out of the first death, the physical death, the unconscious sleep, into Gehenna. Lazarus and Abraham are resurrected into the Kingdom of God. Now Jesus advised...

13 But when you spread a feast, invite poor people, crippled, lame, blind,
14 and you will be happy, because they have nothing with which to repay you. For you will be repaid in the resurrection of the righteous ones (Luke 14).

Whereas Paul explains...

15 and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24).

So the unrighteous ones, those who are not in Abraham's bosom, still nonetheless get a resurrection. They get a resurrection into torment and anguish. So the rich man gets the resurrection of the unrighteous and Lazarus and Abraham get the resurrection of the righteous. 

Now Jesus says about Hell, Gehenna...

28 And do not become fearful of those who kill the [human] body [in the first death] but cannot kill the soul [in the second death] [the non human body - the angelic body to which your spirit goes when the human body is killed becoming an angelic soul = angelic body + spirit]; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul [your present body + spirit combo] and body [your secondary body] in Gehenna (Matthew 10:28)  - see intro14.

So if our angelic body was shared then it would be 2nd dead and those who kill our human body would also kill our soul. So the good news is that we all have a dedicated angelic server, and 2nd body, a 2nd vehicle for our spirits. When we sleep, then our spirit goes into that body. If we are not born again then we can only sleep in our angel (and the 1st death, adamic death is precisely that sleep). If we are born again we can wake up and be awake in our angel. However the first death is indeed a shared angelic server for the sleeping!

So means that humans and angels are so closely related as to be almost indistinguishable. The only difference really is that we are asleep and they are awake in their angelic bodies.

Spirit = Software
Body = Hardware
Soul = Spirit + Non Shared Body
Living soul = Being alive = Spirit running on a non shared body
Sleeping human = Spirit is dreaming in your angelic body, the movie studio for your dreams. Your human brain is the cinema for that movie NOT the studio. So your spirit is running on two bodies, your human body (cinema) and your angelic (studio)
Living human = Spirit running consciously on human body in the day and running subconsciously on both angelic body and human body when asleep (dreaming)
Dead soul = Being dead = Spirit running on a shared angelic body
1st Dead Being = Spirit sleeping and dreaming in a shared angelic body (not owned) in Hades - whilst still possessing an angelic soul with a subconscious connector (the silver chord of Ecclesiastes 12:6) which is disconnected. 
2nd Dead Being =  Spirit awake in shared angelic body (not owned) in Gehenna. This is a soul-less consciousness.
1st Death = Adamic death = Soul-less subconsciousness.
2nd Death = Gehenna = Soul-less consciousness.
Non born again human = Human brain is only connected to the angelic brain subconsciously = having a non owned second angelic soul with a subconscious connector.
Born again human = Spirit is permitted to run on the angelic body consciously = having an owned second angelic soul with a conscious connector (implied golden chord of Ecclesiastes 12:6) and a subconscious connector (silver chord of Ecclesiastes 12:6). But this angel cannot be consciously accessed whilst the spirit is running on a human.

Humans can kill human souls and send them into the first death for the law of Moses required soul for soul (Exodus 21:23, Leviticus 24:18). 

But they cannot kill 'the soul', meaning all of your souls. Because your spirit has a second body, which is not destroyable by humans. So it goes into your second body, which is angelic, and that becomes your new soul. So humans can destroy one of your two vehicles in your garage but they cannot destroy the other! 

Jesus did not say, fear him who can destroy the spirit in Gehenna. Gehenna preserves the spirit but kills the soul, whether angelic or fleshly. The soul here is the associated angelic body and the body is the human body. So Hell or Gehenna is a soul-less consciousness. Truly it is a non physical prison for disembodied spirits. When the unrighteous die, they enter the first death which is non consciousness as they sleep in a shared Hades angelic body which they do not own. Then they are resurrected into Gehenna as a soul-less spirit, where they are awake in a shared angelic body that they do not own This is the second death. Hades can be used to cover both, it basically means dead or in the grave.

4 Next he said to them: "Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do a good deed or to do a bad deed, to save or to kill a soul?"­­ But they kept silent (Mark 3). 

Man can kill a soul, he can kill a human soul, but he cannot kill the soul, which means kill all of your bodies including your angelic one. A soul in the sense of Mark 3 is a human soul, a human body, the human vehicle for the spirit. The soul in the sense of Matthew 10:28 is your angelic soul, the angelic vehicle for your spirit. There are two different souls being talked about in Matthew 10 and Mark 3, and these two correspond with the two nostrils of Adam. The human soul can be killed, the angelic soul which is in fact a sleeping angel, cannot. Luke explains it even more clearly...

4 Moreover, I say to you, my friends, Do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more.
5 But I will indicate to you whom to fear: Fear him who after killing [1st death] has authority to throw into Gehenna [2nd death]. Yes, I tell you, fear this One. (Luke 12 NWT)

So now we can finally understand what Jesus was talking about when he said...

29 If, now, that right eye of yours is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost to you than for your whole body to be pitched into Gehenna [a non corporeal existence, whereby you lose all of your body members].

Obviously it is better to be conscious of the loss of one body member than it is to be conscious of the loss of all your body members. And those in Gehenna are faced with precisely that loss. So no physical pain can be felt in Hell, since one does not have a physical body with which to feel it. But emotional and psychological torment and anguish are certainly felt there as they see the people whom they have abused and murdered living in paradise on the outside (as the rich man saw Lazarus). But it appears that you do have a form of timeshare access to body members in Gehenna for the psalmist said...

4 Their idols are silver and gold, The work of the hands of earthling man.
5 A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes they have, but they cannot see;
6 Ears they have, but they cannot hear. A nose they have, but they cannot smell.
7 Hands are theirs, but they cannot feel. Feet are theirs, but they cannot walk; They utter no sound with their throat.
8 Those making them will become just like them, All those who are trusting in them (Psalm 115).

Now Jesus said when he defined Gehenna:

27 But he will speak and say to you, I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness!'
28 There is where [your] weeping and the gnashing of [your] teeth will be, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves thrown outside (Luke 13).

So Gehenna is being thrown outside the kingdom but still 'seeing' those within it. 

Gehenna is a Sin Bin, a Spectators Gallery for the Kingdom of God

Does God design a soft breeze to caress the cheek of a man for 70 years or more in order to burn him in hell for an eternity with a wind so hot that his flesh vapourises?
Does he design the face and the heart of a woman to be so loving that it intoxicates a man his whole life, in order to kill him in a permanent Hell, ensuring that he will never see that face or feel that love ever again?
Does he command a man to love his brother and then destroy that love along with his brother in a Hell of torment or of non existence from which there is absolutely no escape?
Does he command us to love our enemies whilst he himself hates them so much that he punishes them eternally in a Hell with no end?

How much of a hypocrite do you think he is? Or is it the case that your churches understanding of his love is where the true hypocrisy and satanic slander is lying?

So... Come on! In true justice, could the true God punish a man for ever as a result of his sinning for 100 years? Would those scales balance? Would that be an eye for an eye or a blow for a blow? No sir. So eventually one must get out of Gehenna. For otherwise God is being pointlessly cruel and unjust. Gehenna is a place of emotionally painful rehabilitation. A place of weeping and gnashing teeth until one gets sin straight in one's mind and in one's heart. For God will teach us all. And eventually he will save us all. He will succeed with all of us, however bad we are at learning. Because love will succeed in all of us because as Paul said: Love never fails. 

Which of your sons would you like permanently to kill, or perhaps to torture forever? So why does your church not teach that hell is a temporary sin bin, rather than a place of perpetual torture or death? And why is it not obvious to your church or indeed to you, that God will one day save Adam his firstborn human son and one day save even Satan himself (who was in fact his original firstborn angelic son - see Intro19 and see U17)? Is it because the head of your church did not read the words of Jeremiah who said:

31 For not to time indefinite will Jehovah cast off.
32 For although he has caused grief, he will also certainly show mercy according to the abundance of his loving-kindness.
33 For not out of his own heart has he afflicted or does he grieve the sons of men (Lamentations 3 NWT)

Literally he will not cast off to a hidden time. So he will always tell the convict the length of his sentence just as any human court would do. It is an abuse to give a prisoner an indefinite sentence because it denies him hope. 


Applying the Binary Question Principle of the Code to Psalm 88:10-12...

10 For those who are dead will you show a marvel? [1st death: No] [Judicially dead but physically alive: Yes. Second dead: Yes]
Or will the Rephaim arise praising you? Selah [Even the Rephaim, the giant Canaanite enemies of Israel: No, for the most part] [But Yes, for some of them]
11 Will your loving-kindness be declared in the grave itself? [In Hades: No] [ In Gehenna: Yes] 
Your faithfulness in [the place of] destruction? [In Hades: No] [In Gehenna: Yes]
12 Will a marvel by you be known in the darkness itself? [No, not in Hades. Because the 1st dead are conscious of nothing being asleep] [Yes, in Gehenna, where you can see what you wish to see some of the time, the marvels of the kingdom will be known]
Or your righteousness in the land of forgetfullness/oblivion? [No, not in Hades] [Yes, in Gehenna] (Psalm 88).

The binary question principle of the code REQUIRES both answers to be true. And one answer is YES YES YES. 

The apostle Peter tells us... 

9 He is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance (2 Peter 3)

Do you think he will be frustrated by this desire, because he is not quite powerful enough to achieve it? Isaiah answers saying... 

10 Everything that is my delight I shall do (Isaiah 46).

So there it is. A two piece jigsaw. When it is put together it says: God saves everyone. That is absolutely every man, every woman, every child and every angel. Indeed he will save every foetus into which a spirit has been downloaded (this occurs around mid-term into the pregnancy, 20 weeks, we presently believe - see J13).


1John4:8 tells us that God is love. This means the following...

It means God invented love.
It means God defines love.
And it means that if you can think of a more loving plan than God has come up with then you are love and he is not.

And Jesus' name (Yeshua) means Jehovah is salvation, whereas Elisha's name means God is salvation. So if God is love and God is salvation, then love is salvation, since equality is transitive. Since God loves us all, however unrighteous our behaviour, he will save us all, for that is what love is. Another two piece jigsaw.


Then we have the Lord's prayer...

6 Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven (Matthew 6)

So his will is going to be done everywhere, and his will is that all men should be saved... 

3 This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Saviour, God,
4 whose will is that all men [pantaV anqrwpouV] should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth (1 Timothy 2).

So he will save us all. Another two piece jigsaw!


But if that is too complex for ye great and holy researchers of the perfect word of God, try this one piece jigsaw (included especially for Americans)...

10 For to this end we are working hard and exerting ourselves, because we have rested our hope on a living God, who is a Savior of all men, especially of faithful ones [but also of unfaithful ones through the sin bin of Gehenna (Hell)] (1 Timothy 4).


Or indeed this one piece jigsaw...

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (1 Corinthians 15 KJV)
22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. (1 Corinthians 15 NWT)
22 for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, (1 Corinthians 15 YLT)
22 as-even for in the Adam all are dying, thus also in the Christ all will be made alive. (1 Corinthians 15 KIT)
22 w[sper ga.r evn tw/| VAda.m pa,ntej avpoqnh,|skousin ou[twj kai. evn tw/| Cristw/| pa,ntej zw|opoihqh,sontai (1 Corinthians 15 WHO)

Does it say: Some will be made alive? No. It says all will be made alive. 


Then we have this one piece jigsaw...

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 6).

Yes. That is the gift God gives. It is not the gift God might give. It is not a question of whether you will get it, for God loves us all equally. It is merely a question of when you will get yourself ready to receive what is ready to receive you.


Love never fails and we must love our enemies and you cannot love the non existent or the perpetually roasted. Put those two together and you see again that everyone will be saved eventually, both our friends and our enemies. For love bears all things, love endures all things, even the sort of behaviour that puts us into Gehenna (Hell)!

1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a sounding [piece of] brass or a clashing cymbal.
2 And if I have the gift of prophesying and am acquainted with all the sacred secrets and all knowledge, and if I have all the faith so as to transplant mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
3 And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body, that I may boast, but do not have love, I am not profited at all.
4 Love is long-suffering and kind. Love is not jealous, it does not brag, does not get puffed up,
5 does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury.
6 It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.
7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with (1 Corinthians 13 NWT)


Paul said: 

55 Death where is your victory? Death where is your sting? (1 Corinthians 15)

So the worst a man gets from death is a sting. Death has victory over no one. So we are all victorious over death eventually. It is just that some of us take a bit longer than others to conquer it. 


For the Jewish reader: Under law the sin offering worked as follows... The fat was burnt at the altar, representing the stored up knowledge of the futility of sin that wicked behaviour produces as a fruit. The flesh was burnt outside the camp representing the outcome for the body of the sinner. But the blood, the life, the spirit of the sinner, was spattered 7 times before the curtain and put on the horns of the altar etc. It was not destroyed. So the spirit of the sinner lives on.


And Paul said of death...

26 [Until] the last enemy [of the enemies in the verse above], death is brought to nothing [this is not merely the first death which is brought to nothing on 2024Shebat16/21, the resurrection of the sealed OMCs from the last chance saloon, the descended church of the 1AC and OMC. But eventually the 2nd death - Gehenna - Hell will be brought to nothing].

So if Hell is brought to nothing, then all its inmates shall be released.


The prodigal son did pretty much everything that one is not supposed to do and yet he was not only forgiven but the fatted calf was slaughtered for him. So what really can one do that God will not in the end forgive if one is repentant? What sin is too great for God's love? The parable gives us the answer.


God loves those in Gehenna for the Psalm says...

33 For Jehovah hears the needy, and He does not despise His prisoners (Psalms 69 GLT).


God's justice is eye for eye, tooth for tooth, blow for blow, branding for branding and soul for soul. A perfect balance of the scales. So if a man sins for 100 years he cannot be punished for eternity. That would not be justice. It would be murder. He could be punished for a period longer than 100 year to give him time to repent and be rehabilitated. But the punishment period must be finite since his sin, however bad, was finite in duration and in extent.


In fact the statement: 'Love never fails' - means that love will succeed with all of us. It means that love will succeed even with Genghis Khan, who will one day become a loving marshmallow like God, and he will be saved on that day. It means that love will one day succeed even with Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot. It will succeed with every hell's angel, every gold digging slapper. Yes, every callous bitch who trampled on love for a few bucks or some meaningless status or worldly security, will one day fall into genuine love forever as will we all. Love will succeed with every porno queen who abused the passions of a hundred thousand men, every warmongering politician who sent young men and women to their deaths in order to procure another 24 hours of power for himself, every corrupt bureaucrat who wasted the fruits of his brother's labour, every adulterer, every murderer, every paedophile on the list, every paedophile hater, everyone who put a paedophile on the list, every paedophobe (men or women who desert their own children - they may not be on the list of men but they sure as hell are on the list of God) and every paedophobe hater. It means we shall all be saved. Even Ken Livingstone will one day be saved (after apologising to a few million drivers). Yes even Donald Rumsfeld will one day be saved (after apologising to a few million Iraqis). Even Robert Mugabe himself will be saved (after apologizing to a few million Zimbabweans). Even the feminists who have destroyed the headship of every husband in the West which has led to teenage gangs which constantly fight for headship - even those sick power hungry mistresses of misery will be saved. For St. Paul has informed us that love never fails. And love's success is our salvation.

If love never fails, then it will succeed even with you. That means you will be saved.

So now we can truly understand what Paul was saying in 1 Corinthians 5...

5 You hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, in order that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord (1Corinthians5). 

The flesh that is destroyed when a man is thrown out of the congregation is the blessing of the ICC, a promise of non adamic human body. For this is the possession of all those with a water baptism. But even the disfellowshipped man, who has no fleshly hope, will have his spirit saved in the day of the Lord, which day is the 1,000 year kingdom of God. It is saved by being kept alive in Gehenna, in a shared body with a mouth that cannot speak and eyes that cannot see and ears that cannot hear, since they are time shared with several other condemned ones, his soul-mates.

The Watchtower argues that no loving parent would hold their son’s hand on a hotplate for a thousand years, so people are not tortured in Hell but simply terminated permanently. The Lords' Witnesses argue that neither would any loving parent cause their son to disappear forever. For the former is an abuse of love, and the latter is an absence of love. God suffers from neither. So Gehenna is an external rehabilitation of an emotionally painful type.  

It is like Hugh Grant sang in the movie Music and Lyrics: Don't write me off just yet!
And it is like Arnie said in the movie Terminator: I'll be back!

But does his love extend only to his human sons? Hell, No! He has a cunning plan to save even Satan himself. And he will execute it (the plan that is, not Satan), because it shall be his very delight so to do. Because his love knows no bounds at all and it is not only greater than his justice, but is in fact the whole basis of his justice. It is the father of his justice. The relationship between justice and love is exposed by Paul who says:

12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off (Matthew 24).

Law, Justice, is the greenhouse in which love grows best. Injustice grows hate, which causes conflict and injury.

The Inevitable Repentance of Satan

And yes, just as the true God created the whole 6400 km radius earth to save his firstborn human son, Adam. Every one of his sons, both angelic and human, will one day realise that he created the whole 15 billion light year radius universe to save his firstborn angelic son, Satan. And then we will all know the invincibility of the love of our father and the lengths to which he is prepared to go to save us. You do not believe it? Your heart cannot see it? You think that is too hard for God? You think his heart is not big enough? You think his love will conquer everything except Satan? Well then listen to Jesus' words, spoken in response to Peter's weakness. And compare them to the words he used to call Andrew and Peter and the words he used to call his other his disciples...

23 Get thee behind me Satan (Matthew16)
Bring [yourself] under Satan Matthew 4)
Come after me (Mark4)
Be my follower (Matthew9)

Literally Jesus was calling Peter a resister, Satan means 'resister'. He was reminding Peter to follow his lead rather than trying to lead himself. But every scripture means more than the literal meaning, for they are all alive and powerful. Jesus was in fact, with the very same words, speaking directly to Satan. He was telling him to become his disciple and follow his path to divinity. He did not say: Get thee lost Satan, he said: Get the behind me Satan. Jesus was actually about to give a ransom that would eventually save Satan in any event! In fact Jesus said the same thing (in the Greek text) directly to Satan when he was being tested although most translations miss it...

10 Then Jesus said to him: Bring [yourself] under, Satan! For it is written, 'It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.' (Matthew 4 LWT)
10 to,te le,gei auvtw/| o` VIhsou/j {Upage Satana/\ ge,graptai ga,r Ku,rion to.n qeo,n sou proskunh,seij kai. auvtw/| mo,nw| latreu,seij (Matthew 4 WHO)

The imperative Greek verb Upage means bring under literally (i.e. accept God's authority). It is the very same Greek verb used in Matthew 16:23...

23 But, turning his back, he said to Peter: Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God's thoughts, but those of men. (Matthew 16 NWT)
23 He but turning said to the Peter: Go thou behind of me, adversary; a stumbling block of me thou art; for not thou regardest the (things) of the God, but those of the men. (Matthew 16 ED)
23 o` de. strafei.j ei=pen tw/| Pe,trw| {Upage ovpi,sw mou Satana/\ ska,ndalon ei= evmou/ o[ti ouv fronei/j ta. tou/ qeou/ avlla. ta. tw/n avnqrw,pwn (Matthew 16 WHO)

So there can be no doubt. Satan will become a Christian at some point. Furthermore Satan will transfer his firstborn rights to Michael so that Satan becomes behind Michael in angelic birth order - see U27.

Jesus actually commanded Satan to repent prophetically in Matthew 4:10 saying to him directly...

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Matthew 4 KJV)
10 Then Jesus said to him: Go away, Satan! For it is written, 'It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.' (Matthew 4 NWT)
10 Then Jesus said to him, Go, Satan! For it has been written: "You shall worship [the] Lord your God, and you shall serve Him only." [Deut. 6:13] (Matthew 4 GLT)

SATAN: Thou shalt worship the Lord, they God, and him alone thou shalt serve!

No word of scripture can go unfulfilled!! If you believe that. Then you believe Satan will repent..

So this might be a good time to consider the words of Romeo when he compares non existence to banishment, i.e. when he compares the Hell of Russell (permanent non existence) to the Hell of Ritchie (soul-less exile)...

What less than dooms-day is the prince's doom?

A gentler judgment vanish'd from his lips, not body's death, but body's banishment.

Ha, banishment! be merciful, say 'death',  for exile hath more terror in his look, much more than death: do not say 'banishment.'

Hence from Verona art thou banished. Be patient, for the world is broad and wide.

There is no world without Verona walls, but purgatory, torture, hell itself. Hence-banished is banish'd from the world,
and world's exile is death: then banished, is death mis-term'd. Calling death banishment, thou cutt'st my head off with a golden axe, and smilest upon the stroke that murders me.

O deadly sin! O rude unthankfulness! Thy fault our law calls death; but the kind prince, taking thy part, hath rush'd aside the law, and turn'd that black word death to banishment. This is dear mercy, and thou seest it not.

'Tis torture, and not mercy. Heaven is here, where Juliet lives, and every cat and dog and little mouse, every unworthy thing, live here in heaven and may look on her, but Romeo may not. More validity, more honourable state, more courtship lives in carrion-flies than Romeo. They may seize on the white wonder of dear Juliet's hand and steal immortal blessing from her lips, who even in pure and vestal modesty, still blush, as thinking their own kisses sin. But Romeo may not, he is banished. Flies may do this, but I from this must fly. They are free men, but I am banished. And say'st thou yet that exile is not death? Hadst thou no poison mix'd, no sharp-ground knife, no sudden mean of death, though ne'er so mean. But 'banished' to kill me?--'banished'? O friar, the damned use that word in hell. Howlings attend it, how hast thou the heart,
being a divine, a ghostly confessor, a sin-absolver, and my friend profess'd, to mangle me with that word 'banished'?

You cannot love someone who is permanently dead!

The simplest way to see that no one will die permanently is to read Jesus' command to love even our enemies...

44 However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you (Matthew 5).
But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you (Luke 6). 

God is not a hypocrite, so he loves his enemy Satan. But one cannot love someone who is permanently dead. So Satan will never be permanently dead. Indeed why would God command us to love our enemies and then kill them at Armageddon, thereby making it impossible for us to love them? One cannot love a person who will never again be resurrected? The requirement to love everyone means that everyone will be resurrected, and no one will die permanently.  

Paul defined love as follows...

Love never fails (1 Corinthians 13:8).

So therefore at what point does God's love for Satan fail? The answer is at no point does it ever fail. He will be saved. God will teach him to conquer his sin. Any less would be a failure of God's love and that is one thing that is impossible.

JW Hanson and the Christian Universalist Movement

Some sincere Christians have believed in the doctrine of universal salvation since the beginning of the second presence. J. W. Hanson (who despite his initials was not a JW) wrote: Bible Proofs of Universal Salvation (published by Universal Publishing House). This book was entered into the Library of Congress in 1877. It has many scriptural proofs that all will be saved eventually. Here is a link to an online version...

There are organisations today dedicated to the doctrine of Universal Salvation... www.christianuniversalist.org

The Precise state of those in Hell

28 And do not become fearful of those who kill the [human] body [in the first death] but cannot kill the soul [in the second death] [the non human body - the angelic body to which your spirit goes when the human body is killed becoming an angelic soul = angelic body + spirit]; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul [your present body + spirit combo] and body [your secondary body] in Gehenna (Matthew 10:28).

Soul = Spirit + Non Shared Body
Living Being = Software + Hardware
Being alive is possessing a non shared body which is being a soul.
1st Dead Being = Spirit sleeping in sleeping non shared dedicated angelic body which you own but cannot wake up in until your are born again.
2nd Dead Being =  Spirit awake in shared Angelic body (not owned)

29 If, now, that right eye of yours is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost to you than for your whole body to be pitched into Gehenna.
30 Also, if your right hand is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of
your members to be lost than for your whole body to land in Gehenna (Matthew 5).

43 And if ever your hand makes you stumble, cut it off; it is finer for you to enter into life maimed than with two hands to go off
into Gehenna, into the fire that cannot be put out.
45 And if your foot makes you stumble, cut it off; it is finer for you to enter into life lame than with two feet to be pitched into
47 And if your eye makes you stumble, throw it away; it is finer for you to enter one-eyed into the kingdom of God than with two eyes to be pitched into Gehenna (Mark 9).

19 A man, but, a certain one [tij], was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself according to day luxuriously.
A poor [one], but, a certain one [tij] Lazarus in name used to be put at his gate, ulcerated
and desiring to be filled from the [things] falling from the table of the rich [one]. Yes, too, the dogs would come and lick his ulcers.
Now it happened that the poor [one] died and he was carried off by the angels into the bosom of Abraham [metonym for fatherhood]. Also, the rich [one] died and was buried.
And in Hades he lifted up his eyes [to see the future in a vision] being in torments, [seeing in vision what it would be like for him in Gehenna, we do dream in Hades!!] and he saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in the bosoms of him [in the Kingdom of God, after his resurrection]
So he called and said, 'Father, Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip of water [genitive indirect object, but symbolic water to the parable, there is no real fire in Gehenna and hence no need for real water] the tip of his finger [The Pharisee never lifted a finger for Lazarus in this system] and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this blazing flame [Symbolic to the parable. There is no real fire in Gehenna. But those in Gehenna may have a tongue and eyes since Lazarus does have a finger. This is all a metaphorical request for Lazarus to do the absolute minimum to assuage the fire of the rich man's conscience as regards his negligent use of his tongue in this system!!].' [22]
But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that you received in full your good [things] in your life but Lazarus likewise the bad [things]. Now, however, he is having comfort here but you are in anguish.
And besides all these [things], a great chasm has been fixed between us and you, so that [ones] wanting to go over from here to you cannot, neither may [ones] cross over from there to us.'
Then he said, 'In that event I ask you, father, to send him to the house of my father,
for I have 5 brothers, in order that he may testify to them thoroughly, that they also should not get into this place of torment.'
But Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to these.'
Then he said, 'No, indeed, father, Abraham, but if someone from the dead [ones] goes to them they will repent.'
But he said to him, 'If they are not hearing of Moses and of the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead [ones].'

So the body is destroyed in Gehenna but not the head which can talk, hear, see and has a tongue! And the soul is destroyed as we read in Matthew 10. Also no head is self sustaining, it must remain plugged into something. But that something is not a personally owned soul and is not its own body. A living soul is a self sustaining body with a spirit in it. And dead soul is a dead body with no spirit in it. The soul in Gehenna is like Legion, possessed by 6,000 demons and the 3 in a pig sequel. The account prophetically tells us what demons want in Gehenna. Gehenna is worse than having 6,000 demons in a man but is better than having 3 demons in a pig. So one exists in a multi-spirited beast as it were. A time-shared body for a multiplicity of spirits.

If a living soul in the Kingdom is a driver in a car then the spirits in Gehenna, who soul share with their cell mates who are their soul mates, are passengers or drivers in a very large bus. Surely every Londoner suspected that Hell would have bendy buses in it!

Demon Possession, Hell and Transport For London

Why did God allow demon possession? Is it not an extreme perversion worse than bestiality? 

24 From there he rose up and went into the regions of Tyre and Sidon. And he entered into a house and did not want anyone to get to know it. Yet he could not escape notice;
25 but immediately a woman whose little daughter had an unclean spirit heard about him and came and prostrated herself at his feet.
26 The woman was a Grecian, a Syrophoenician nationally; and she kept asking him to expel the demon from her daughter.
27 But he began by saying to her: First let the children be satisfied, for it is not right to take the bread of the children and throw it to the little dogs.
28 In reply, however, she said to him: Yes, sir, and yet the little dogs underneath the table eat of the crumbs of the little children.
29 At that he said to her: Because of saying this, go; the demon has gone out of your daughter.
30 So she went away to her home and found the young child laid on the bed and the demon gone out (Mark 7)

Why would God permit such a thing? Well have a look at what the demons often said to Jesus...

28 When he got to the other side, into the country of the Gadarenes, there met him 2 demon-possessed men coming out from among the memorial tombs, unusually fierce, so that nobody had the courage to pass by on that road.
29 And, look! they screamed, saying: What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?
30 But a long way off from them a herd of many swine was at pasture.
31 So the demons began to entreat him, saying: If you expel us, send us forth into the herd of swine.
32 Accordingly he said to them: Go! They came out and went off into the swine; and, look! the entire herd rushed over the precipice into the sea and died in the waters (Matthew 8).

26 And they put in to shore in the country of the Gerasenes [not the Gadarenes] which is on the side opposite Galilee.
27 But as he got out onto land a certain man from the city who had demons met him. And for a considerable time he had not worn clothing, and he was staying, not at home, but among the tombs.
28 At the sight of Jesus he cried aloud and fell down before him, and with a loud voice he said: What have I to do with you, Jesus Son of the Most High God? I beg you, do not torment me.
29 For he had been ordering the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For over a long time it had held him fast, and he was repeatedly bound with chains and fetters under guard, but he would burst the bonds and be driven by the demon into the lonely places.
30 Jesus asked him: What is your name? He said: Legion, because many demons had entered into him.
31 And they kept entreating him not to order them to go away into the abyss.
32 Now a herd of a considerable number of swine was feeding there on the mountain; so they entreated him to permit them to enter into those. And he gave them permission.
33 Then the demons went out of the man and entered into the swine, and the herd rushed over the precipice into the lake and drowned.
34 But when the herders saw what had happened, they fled and reported it to the city and to the countryside.
35 Then people turned out to see what had happened, and they came to Jesus and found the man from whom the demons came out, clothed and in his sound mind, sitting at the feet of Jesus; and they became fearful.
36 Those who had seen it reported to them how the demon-possessed man had been made well.
37 So all the multitude from the surrounding country of the Gerasenes asked him to get away from them, because they were in the grip of great fear. Then he went aboard the boat and turned away.
38 However, the man from whom the demons had gone out kept begging to continue with him; but he dismissed the man, saying:
39 Be on your way back home, and keep on relating what things God did for you. Accordingly he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city what things Jesus did for him (Luke 8).

1 Well, they got to the other side of the sea into the country of the Gerasenes.
2 And immediately after he got out of the boat a man under the power of an unclean spirit met him from among the memorial tombs.
3 He had his haunt among the tombs; and up to that time absolutely nobody was able to bind him fast even with a chain,
4 because he had oftentimes been bound with fetters and chains, but the chains were snapped apart by him and the fetters were actually smashed; and nobody had the strength to subdue him.
5 And continually, night and day, he was crying out in the tombs and in the mountains and slashing himself with stones.
6 But on catching sight of Jesus from a distance he ran and did obeisance to him,
7 and, when he had cried out with a loud voice, he said: What have I to do with you, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I put you under oath by God not to torment me.
8 For he had been telling it: Come out of the man, you unclean spirit.
9 But he began to ask him: What is your name? And he said to him: My name is Legion, because there are many of us.
10 And he entreated him many times not to send the spirits out of the country.
11 Now a great herd of swine was there at the mountain feeding.
12 So they entreated him, saying: Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13 And he permitted them. With that the unclean spirits came out and entered into the swine; and the herd rushed over the precipice into the sea, about 2,000 of them, and they drowned one after another in the sea.

2 and certain women that had been cured of wicked spirits and sicknesses, Mary the so-called Magdalene, from whom 7 demons had come out (Luke 8).

9 After he rose early on the first day of the week he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had expelled 7 demons.
10 She went and reported to those who had been with him, as they were mourning and weeping.
11 But they, when they heard he had come to life and had been viewed by her, did not believe (Mark 16 - long conclusion - this is canonical - see Mark).

So the holy spirit makes a point of telling us (when it records expulsion conversations) that they all said to Jesus: What do I have to do with you son of the most high God? This is a reader question. The reader is supposed to ask: Why did they all say that? So we have to find out what these demons have to do with Jesus, who is a son of God. The answer literally is that the demons of the dragon (Satan's administration) were all sent down here to possess people during Jesus' ministry due to the ministry ransom deal - which essentially put 3½ years of the Kingdom of God into the first century - see U27

Secondly we know that there were no demon possessions in the old testament (other than possibly of goats - see Leviticus 17:7, 2Chronicles 11:15, Isaiah13:21). Demon possession of humans began in the new testament. Again we think this is due to the ministry ransom deal. The demons can only possess those who are born again sons of the DAC (Hell's angels, covenant offspring over vipers, humans who are born again with an angel that is sentenced to Gehenna). 

Our present understanding is that Tartarus is angelic first death, adamic death is human first death and Gehenna is human and angelic second death.

Now in the case of Legion, he was not permitted to join the congregation of Jesus (which was a 1NC church) but was permitted and requested by Jesus to do Christian works, going around declaring what Jesus had done for him. The original occupier of the man possessed by Legion would not have known what was going on. But would have been a son of the DAC. Mary Magdalene, who had 7 demons, was permitted to follow Jesus around. This guy was not so permitted.

This would appear to indicate that having 6,000 demons means you are in a different category to someone who had only 7 of them. Actually it is more likely that Legion was a son of the DAC and Mary Magdalene was not. But even this guy could be saved by the Love Ransom Covenant, and the bible says he did what Jesus told him. So we can expect the original occupier of poor old Legion in the Kingdom of God - without his 6,000 demons!

Well this brings us back to the case of the young girl who was possessed by only one demon. How did that occur since she was too young to be a DAC saint (20 years old minimum). The answer is ownership. God gives the wife and the children to the husband. This doesn't always give the best result, but it works a lot better on average than the modern system of giving the house and the children to the wife in the event of a divorce at the wife's behest. 

The Mother was Syro-Phoenician, a Gentile, and so had not yet been called into the any saintly covenant. The father must have been a Jew.

The DAC appears to mirror the JAC here. When there are calls to be saints under the JAC, then Satan appears to get a mirror deal for the DAC.

So the young girl's dad must have been in the DAC and yet her mother must have had faith and not been in the DAC. Perhaps the girl was too young to he protected by faith and was of course owned by her father. In fact once you own the body of the father, you have his rights over the bodies of his wife or children. This demon in the husband must have been male and then the demoness in the young girl must have been female. God would not permit cross gender possession. That would indeed be pointless perversion.

So it was not the fault of the young girl, she was a victim of the ownership status of a child. She suffered for the sins of her father. Although had the daughter been in the 1AC Abraham would have been able to stop the possession as he did in the case of the Mother presumably who was not possessed and demonstrated great faith to Jesus. The little girl was not Jewish because Jesus described her cure as food being given not to the children but to little dogs. This was because a Jew must have Jewish lineage on the Mother's side. 

So back to Mary Magdalene. Since she was permitted to join the Christian congregation, she must not have been the primary possession target. She cannot have been a daughter of the DAC. Her husband or owner must have been the primary target, and a son of the DAC. Perhaps she was a slave girl owned by a master? 

The first Gentile recorded as being possessed in the bible is the servant girl in Acts 16. So this possession occurred after the conversion of Cornelius. So again a group needs to be called into a saintly covenant before any of its members can be entered into the DAC. The wheat call precedes the weed call.

The 6,000 seater Bendy Bus, the 7 seater minibus and the 1 seater motorbike

So how did these 6,000 demons (for a Roman Legion had 6,000 soldiers in it) possess the poor chap? Did all these demonic spirits run on the hardware of his human brain at the same time? Obviously not since only one demon actually spoke to Jesus.

So how does it work? Well we know that those in Gehenna lose their angelic soul (initially). Yet they do have eyes and ears etc. but that cannot use them. So plainly they are sharing a soul. But thereagain since a human soul cannot handle 6,000 spirits in it and since we are made in the image of the angels, an angelic soul cannot handle 6,000 spirits in it either. So there must be a special angelic Gehenna soul that can house 6,000 spirits. This is the Bendy Bus of Hell (we have plenty of these in London).

Only one person can drive it and the other 5,999 spirits within are passengers. The driver will feel more or less like he is in a regular angelic soul, but the passengers will merely get all the senses fed into them from him. They are passive participants and he is the active participant. If he went to look at a cabbage, then 5,999 other people would become cabbage watchers. 

The fascinating thing about demon possession in the scriptures is that there are accounts of 6,000 demons, 7 demons, and 1 demon possessing humans for the first time. There is an account where 1 plus 7 demons possess a human the second time. We will deal with first possession first. The possessions down here tell us what is going on in Hell, since the human body itself cannot house more than one spirit. So the largest Bendy Bus in Hell has 6,000 seats. The smallest mini bus has 7 seats. And when one is ready to be released one does actually get a one seated vehicle in hell. For that is how individual demons possess humans. These demons are not too badly behaved and are in fact in a half way house. The type of bus you get in Hell may relate to the sins you have committed.

40 They are the ones devouring the houses of the widows and for a pretext making long prayers; these will receive a heavier judgment (Mark 12)

So perhaps the stumblers get a 6,000 seater Bendy bus. But the stumbled get something rather smaller like the 7 seater.. 

So we are seeing the various categories of prisoner in hell. Category 1 is 6,000 soul mates. Then the last but one stage appears to be 7 soul mates. Then the last stage is a pre exit individual soul.

If you are in the 6,000 seater, then you get 15 seconds per day at driving it, or around 2 minutes per week. If you are in the 7 seater, you get one day per week. The better you behave, the smaller vehicle you are put into and the more you get to drive it, one presumes.

24 When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through parched/waterless places in search of a resting-place, and, after finding none, it says, 'I will return to my house [his house because he was in it or because he used to run it?] out of which I moved [This house is the church of the man].'
25 And on arriving it finds it swept clean [all dirt is removed i.e. all holy ones, all sealed saints have left] and adorned [with extra Satanic status that all false churches get].
26 Then he despoils/plunders [porqe,w] [it] and takes along 7 different spirits more wicked than itself, and, after getting inside, they dwell there [in the house or in the man - the house presumably?]; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. (Luke 11 NWT)

L35379  porqe,w  porqew  porqe,w, f. h,sw, collat. form of pe,rqw, to destroy, ravage, waste, plunder, Homer., Heroditus, in Greek Tragedies.
2. in present and imperfect. to endeavour to destroy, to besiege a town, Heroditus.: -to destroy, despoil, ruin, Aeschylus.:-in Passivr. to be ruined, undone, Euripides. Hence po,rqhma

43 When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through parched places in search of a resting-place, and finds none.
44 Then it says, 'I will go back to my house out of which I moved'; and on arriving it finds it unoccupied but swept clean and adorned.
45 Then it goes its way and takes along with it 7 different spirits more wicked than itself, and, after getting inside, they dwell there [in the house or in the man - the house presumably?]; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation (Matthew 12).

These two explanation of demon possession make it clear that the 7 spirits are more wicked than the single spirit. So this confirms the 3 categories of prisoner in Gehenna. 1,7 and 6,000 to a soul. 

This is a fascinating form of punishment. The greater the sinner the less love he has and the more self interested he is. But his punishment is to be forced to live the lives of 5,999 other sinners in rotation. If you have no interest in them you will go mad. You will have to develop an interest in 5,999 other people in order to cope. So Gehenna is a brilliant form of self interest rehab!! 

In you are in the 7 seater minibus in Hell, then you get to drive it one day in 7. That would be your Sabbath from the difficult part of Hell.

Also since the final circumstances of the man are worse than the first, the explanations confirm that being demon possessed twice means that you are definitely going to Hell. The house will be a true religion, because the demons possessed the true people of God, the Jews, and the Gentiles only after they were called in the first century. A parches/waterless place is a true church after it has lost its water baptism at which point the 1NC saints are no longer Jesus' flesh. These demons appear to be looking for failed saints in a falling church. This would be in order to complete the corruption of that church and ruin as many of its believers as they can.

Presumably the reason that the demons slash themselves with stones etc, is in order that they feel something. When you spend 99.9% of you time passively sitting in a Bendy Bus, it is great to feel absolutely anything!!

The interesting line for us today is: That is how it will be also with this wicked generation. It appears that Jesus is using the literal plight of the demons as a parable for the first true church of a presence that becomes unclean and then becomes so bad that you are better off having never joined it. But there again is he saying that it will have demon possession 8x in some sense? 

Kingdom Expulsion by God's Finger

20 But if it is by means of God's finger [pointing out and identifying whom they are possessing] I expel the demons, the kingdom of God has really overtaken/preceded/come before you [Demons are not expelled by identification with God's finger until after the Kingdom has arrived].
21 When a strong man, well armed, guards his palace, his belongings continue in peace.
22 But when someone stronger than he is comes against him and conquers him, he takes away his full armament in which he was trusting [this applies to the church of Martha which is conquered by the church of Mary who is stronger in research and has better understandings], and he divides out the things he despoiled him of [into their salvation covenants].
23 He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters (Luke 11).

Judas was possessed by Satan twice and condemned to Hell

3 But Satan entered into Judas, the one called Iscariot, who was numbered among the 12;
4 and he went off and talked with the chief priests and [temple] captains about the effective way to betray him to them.
5 Well, they rejoiced and agreed to give him silver money.
6 So he consented, and he began to seek a good opportunity to betray him to them without a crowd around (Luke 22).

27 And after the morsel then Satan entered into the latter. Jesus, therefore, said to him: What you are doing get done more quickly.
28 However, none of those reclining at the table knew for what purpose he said this to him.
29 Some, in fact, were imagining, since Judas was holding the money box, that Jesus was telling him: Buy what things we need for the festival, or that he should give something to the poor.
30 Therefore, after he received the morsel, he went out immediately. And it was night (John 13).

This is why Jesus said: 

20 He said to them: It is one of the 12, who is dipping with me into the common bowl.
21 True, the Son of man is going away, just as it is written concerning him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been finer for that man if he had not been born [born again that is, since now Judas was irrevocably condemned to Gehenna because he had tasted of the powers and fallen away] (Mark 14).

4 For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift, and who have become partakers of holy spirit,
5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things,
6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame (Hebrews 6 NWT)

This was the case with Judas. He cannot be revived. He has to go to Gehenna. It would have been better had he never tasted the powers, i.e. never been born again. 

However it is absolutely not the case that everyone who fails as a saint goes to Hell. You can fail as a saint under test but repent and keep faith and still become a kingdom citizen.

Deaf Dumb and Blind Demons

If a sickness is cured by the expulsion of a demon, then the demonic spirit was only permitted to possess subject to that sickness. Remember that in Gehenna they have eyes that cannot see, ears that cannot hear and a mouth that cannot speak. In fact they get no sensory input directly at all, except when they are driving the composite soul. So a deaf and dumb and blind human is an upgrade for them!

Prison Visitors

We learn from the great chasm in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus that you cannot visit people in Gehenna, but fathers (such as Abraham) can communicate with their immediate children via a duplex video link. And children in Gehenna can communicate with fathers in the Kingdom. But the rich man was unable to communicate directly with Lazarus or with his own brothers. He had to go through "Father Abraham". Well everyone in the kingdom is a son of Abraham by covenant. So those in Gehenna can only speak to their nearest father, the nearest paternal ancestor, in the kingdom of God. This father then becomes their priest, their prison visitor. This rule exists to stop people in Gehenna infecting the kingdom of God - remotely.

Early Resurrection from Hell

7 Raising up the lowly [humble] one from the very dust [the first death]; He exalts the poor [spiritually] one from the ashpit itself [the second death], (Psalms 113 NWT)

God's love always triumphs over his righteousness and releases those from punishment. In fact all punishment is made temporary by love. God The justice of God is proportionate and therefore finite. But his love is disproportionate, and in fact infinite. God will resurrect people out of Gehenna once they have learnt what they need to learn. If you learn the lesson quickly you will be released quickly.

Statistical Death

1. Everyone under the Adamic death sentence who has not been born again is constructively dead since they will eventually die of old age (assuming the system lasts longer than them).

2. Everyone with a non adamic non ageing indefinitely lasting human body is in fact statistically dead because there is a finite non zero probability that someone or something such as a lightening strike or a hard fall will kill them in any one day of their life. And because their body enables them to live for an indefinitely large number of those days. So they will certainly live long enough to reach the day when a lethal event befalls their mortal body (however unlikely that event is for them). So they will die. The probability of their dying at some point in the future is 1. So the bible regards these guys as dead too, even though they are not under a judicial death sentence. They are in fact under a statistical death sentence! 

The Second Death

And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand [new subaccount].
2 And he seized the dragon [accusative], who is the serpent, the ancient [nominatives] a Devil [slanderer] and the Satan [the opposer] [All these designations refer to Satan's entire heavenly organisation, not merely to Satan himself who is the head of the serpent and the head of the dragon], and bound him for 1,000 years [from around 400-460 AD to 1400-1460 AD, starting after the testing of the saints in FDS2 had ended and at the time of fall of Rome, since the trade mark of Satan is large empires. And ending before the start of the Renaissance and before the British empire. Mankind had no heavenly government at all during the 'dark ages'. When Satan is around the angels can do things to protect mankind from the activities of the demons. Satan may have arranged for some things to occur whilst he was dead. But he could not run anything from prison like a criminal boss does today. The renaissance was not merely due to the release of Satan who transforms himself into an angel of light. It would also have been the result of angelic activity in the protection of mankind from demonic activity. The renaissance was certainly the result of heavenly activity pursuant to the release of Satan. The demons were said to teach mankind some technological things before the flood in the book of Enoch - which is quoted by Jude but not necessarily inspired at all or in its entirety]

[Perhaps the dragon is Satan's heavenly administration since it has wings. The serpent is his earthly corrupting arm within the true church on earth since serpents crawl upon their bellies and the serpent was in Eden. Satan is himself and the devil perhaps is the descended dragon since it is the devil that ends up in Gehenna]

3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while [mikron cronon] [about 600 years. 600 years is a short while compared to his prison sentence of 1000 years].

4 And I saw thrones, and there were those who sat down on them, and power of judging was given them [1NC and 2NC kings]. Yes, I saw the souls of those beheaded [not beheaded souls!] due to the witness of/to Jesus and due to the word of God [beheaded by being denied their head which is the LW church appointed over the saints], and those who had worshiped neither the wild-beast nor its image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand. And they came to life [not necessarily prior to their reign. This is all of the kings, not all of the saints] and reigned [as kings, not as Lords] with the Christ for 1,000 years [reigning as a group from 2023Shebat22 to 3023Shebat14?].
The rest of the dead [no one in the Kingdom is first dead. There is no adamic death in the Kingdom. But those resurrected from Hades and those resurrected from Gehenna are second dead, in the sense that they have no angels. All those who survive through the end of this system will have angels either through the 1NC, the 2NC or the 3NC, for the mechanism of escape from the lava flood is angelic] did not come to life [get born again as both humans and angels] until the 1,000 years [of the Kingdom of God] were ended. This [the coming to life of the kings of verse 4] [is] the resurrection, the first.
Happy and holy is anyone having part in the resurrection, the first, over these the second death has no authority but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will reign with him for the 1,000 years [of the Kingdom from 2008Nisan22/2012Ab5 to 3008Nisan14/3012Sivan14. They are sealed in Holy Spirit, they cannot ever be put into Gehenna, the second death, a soul-less existence as a spirit - this is the 1NC Kings and the 2NC Kings only. Lords do not reign, they rule subject to the reign of their king]

7 Now as soon as the 1,000 years [of verse 2] have been ended Satan will be let loose out of his prison [in around 1400-1460 AD we think and again from 3008 onwards after the kingdom. People only become saints, gain angelic life, cease being second dead, in a Satanic environment it would appear. No one becomes a saint in the kingdom of God],
and he will go out to mislead the nations, the [ones] in the 4 corners of the earth [see Revelation 7:1], the [antitypical] Gog [mountain] [he is] and [the antitypical] Magog [covering, overtopping] [Gog the chieftain of the land of Magog launched a disastrous attack on Israel and got pestilence, blood, flooding downpour, hailstones, fire and sulphur from Jehovah who sanctified himself at Gog's expense in Ezekiel 38,39 - In the final part of the years you will come to the land - In the final part of the days it will occur and I shall certainly bring you against my land - the prophets of Israel who were prophesying in those days, years as to bringing you in upon them], to gather them together for the war [there is no war in the post adamic part of the Kingdom of God - they will learn war no more - Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:3. So this war is Armageddon]. The number of these is as the sand of the sea [the precise number of the seed of Abraham. This is the 50/50 split of mankind into faithful and unfaithful].

8 After many days you will be given attention. In the final part of the years you will come to the land [of people] brought back from the sword, collected together out of many peoples, onto the mountains of Israel, that have proved to be a constantly devastated place; even [a land] that has been brought forth from the peoples, [where] they have dwelt in security, all of them (Ezekiel 38).
16 And you will be bound to come up against my people Israel, like clouds to cover the land. In the final part of the days it will occur, and I shall certainly bring you against my land, for the purpose that the nations may know me when I sanctify myself in you before their eyes, Oh Gog.
17 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, 'Are you the same one of whom I spoke in the former days by the hand of my servants the prophets of Israel, who were prophesying in those days -- years -- as to bringing you in upon them?' (Ezekiel 38).

And they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the city, the [one] having been loved [for 2x]. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them [this being the greater flood of lava, the flood of fire, the greater destruction of Sodom, the end of this world by volcanic eruption, an extinction level event - see U154].
And the Devil, the [one] deceiving them [Satan's heavenly slandering organisation, but not its individual members] was hurled into the lake of the fire and sulphur [everlasting destruction], where both the wild-beast [the UN as an organisation, but not its members] and the false prophet [already were] [the US/UK world power, but not their citizens]. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever [no more false prophets, wild beasts or heavenly slanderers]

11 And I saw a great white [righteous] throne [Event: Jesus sits down to separate the sheep from the goats over Zoar from 2024Iyyar5] and the [one] seated on it. From before whose face the earth [Event: Earthly political administrative structure is abandoned by all humans] and the heaven [Event: All false religion on the earth, the spiritual administrations of Satan] fled away, and no place was found for them [the earth and the heaven].

12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened [Event: Faithful people see clearly how they are judged according to the laws of the heavenly church of Melchizedek, which is the law of their conscience]. But another scroll [biblioV - little book] was opened; it is the scroll of life [the little scroll of judicial life, angelic life]. And the dead [Event: Those not in the little book] were judged [Event: As regards entrance into the big book of Kingdom life, not the scroll/little book of angelic life] out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.

13 And the sea [everyone alive as a human but not in the earth of God, which is God's true church, which is the LWs, and not in the earth of Satan, which is his earthly administration, the governments and public sectors of the world] gave up those dead [adamically] in it [to be sorted into faithful and faithless by Jesus through his wife after Zoar begins], and death [Satan and his earthly administration, i.e. 'the earth' i.e. not the sea] and Hades [the grave, the first death] gave up those dead [gnostic, those adamically or judicially or statistically or spiritually or physically or first dead] in them [all those in them are resurrected either into Gehenna or into the kingdom for there is to be a resurrection of the righteous and of the unrighteous], and they were judged individually according to their deeds.
14 And death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire [Physical dying 'death' and being first dead, are abolished in favour of the second death which the becomes the only death in town]. This is the death, the second, the lake of fire [everyone in Hades ends up either in the Kingdom of God or in Gehenna after all the resurrections out of Hades have finished and non one enters into the first death anymore].
15 Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire [you definitely want to be in this book, the book of the FRC and the LRC] (Revelation 20).  

Death and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire, not the lake of fire and sulphur, just the lake of fire. Now the symbolic difference between the lake of fire and the lake of fire and sulphur, is that the latter lake has sulphur which keeps the fire going. So the former lake, the lake of fire, does not keep going. So it lasts for a fixed period of time. But the lake of fire and sulphur lasts for a longer period of time or possibly forever.

This lake stands for the garbage dump at Gehenna (the Greek word for the Hebrew Geh Hinnom, which means the 'valley of Hinnom'). This valley was outside Jerusalem, and was where the dead bodies of criminals were burnt with fire and sulphur. It was Jerusalem's criminal crematorium. It stands figuratively for the second death, which is the death of the angelic soul but not of the spirit. It is a sin bin for spirits, and is referred to as the lake of fire only. It is the perfect prison, for how can one escape it without a soul?

The 2nd death is the lake of fire
Gehenna is the lake of fire and sulphur

So the 2nd death is temporary when compared to Gehenna

We are told that the lake of fire is the second death. So the lake of fire and sulphur is Gehenna, the host, the prison for those in the 2nd death. It continues indefinitely. But being thrown into the lake of fire is a fixed prison term in the second death. Now all of those who fails to be saved experience the second death, which occurs in Gehenna. But since this death is represented not by the lake of fire and sulphur, but rather by the lake of fire alone, they only experience this for a fixed period of time. Gehenna is in fact a sin bin which lasts indefinitely, but the max length of any 2nd death sentence is the 1,000 years of the Kingdom of God.

32 For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come (Matthew 12:32).

There is no forgiveness says Jesus in Matthew, not in this system of things, nor in the one to come (the Kingdom of God). Now let us think about that carefully worded holy statement. The lack of forgiveness applies to this system and to the next (the Kingdom of God). It does not apply to the garden of Eden and neither does it apply to the system after the Kingdom of God which is the 2nd 6,000 year working week of the 50,000 year Jubilee of salvation - see U271aq.

So the longest term in Gehenna is the 1,000 year Kingdom of God.

When Paul said, Death where is your victory, death where is your sting, he did not exclude the second death from his utterance. So speaking clearly we can now say on behalf of all those who do not make it to the Kingdom of God, 50% of us: Second death, where is your victory? And on behalf of the 50% of us that do make it into the Kingdom of God, we say: Second death, where is your sting?

55 Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting? (1 Corinthians 15).

For our God has stated through his great prophet Isaiah that:

10 Everything that is my delight I shall do (Isaiah 46).

And his apostle Paul of the second true Christian church said..

21 For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a man.
22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive (1 Corinthians 15).

All will conquer death through the Christ, not some but all of Adam's sons. All those who die in Adam will get life in Jesus. Gehenna is the second death. No son of Adam will languish there indefinitely. Jesus fixes all of the problems for all of Adam's kids, even the ones who get the resurrection of the unrighteous, a resurrection into Gehenna... 

15 and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24). 

for the book of life is the book of those whom God declares righteous (not that they actually are in their works, but they are in their disposition). For Paul says, referring to this declaration... 

17 just as it is written: I have appointed you a father of many nations. This was in the sight of the One in whom he had faith, even of God, who makes the dead alive and calls the things that are not as though they were (Romans 4).

So the first death is a sub conscious existence in a sleeping angel and the second death is a conscious existence in a prison with a shared angelic body. 

Tartarus and Gehenna

Gehenna, the prison for the 2nd dead began when Tartarus, the prison for the angelic first dead, was emptied out at the start of Jesus' ministry. We can see this from Jude...

6 And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with indefinitely lasting bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day [the 1,000 year long great day or the 3½ year long ministry of Jesus which was borrowed from the kingdom of God and was a judgement on the Jewish system] (Jude).

So Gehenna is not inaugurated until a day of judgement begins. The demons have been in Tartarus since the flood and will be transferred to Gehenna during that day. For humans the judgement day is the kingdom. For the demons it was Jesus' ministry which was borrowed from the kingdom. Jesus expelled a demon very early on in his ministry...

19 And after going a little farther he saw James the [son] of Zebedee and John his brother, in fact, while they were in their boat mending their nets;
20 and without delay he called them. In turn they left their father Zebedee in the boat with the hired men and went off after him.
21 And they went their way into Capernaum. No sooner was it the sabbath than he entered into the synagogue and began to teach.
22 And they became astounded at his way of teaching, for there he was teaching them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
23 Also, at that immediate time there was in their synagogue a man under the power of an unclean spirit, and he shouted,
24 saying: What have we to do with you, Jesus you Nazarene? Did you come to destroy us? I know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God.
25 But Jesus rebuked it, saying: Be silent, and come on out of him! (Mark 1 NWT).

These demons were on earth due to the ministry ransom deal - see U27. You cannot possess a human from Tartarus, since that was a prison only for the angels. You can possess a human from Gehenna since that is a prison for both the humans and the angels. A demon can possess a human bound for Gehenna. There are no humans bound for Tartarus.

4 Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of darkness to be reserved for judgment (2 Peter 2).

18 Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous [person] for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.
19 In this [state] [dead in the flesh but alive in the spirit] also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison [the prison of Gehenna] (1 Peter 3).

So the angels in Tartarus are in their angelic bodies but in darkness, cut off from the light and in prison. The lose their angelic souls in Gehenna, where they share a soul with various other soul-mates. Since 'pits' is plural it looks like each angel has his own pit. Furthermore the practice of the ancient humans was to put people individually into pits as prisons...

20 Should bad be repaid for good? For they have excavated a pit for my soul. Remember my standing before you to speak good even concerning them, to turn back your rage from them.
21 Therefore give their sons over to the famine, and deliver them over to the power of the sword; and may their wives become women bereaved of children, and widows. And may their own men become those killed with deadly plague, their young men those struck down with the sword in the battle.
22 Let a cry be heard out of their houses, when you bring upon them suddenly a marauder band. For they have excavated a pit to capture me, and traps they have hid for my feet (Jeremiah 18).

'Pit' can also mean the first death...

29 There is where Edom, her kings and all her chieftains are, who, in their mightiness, were put with those slain by the sword;
they themselves will lie down even with the uncircumcised ones and with those going down into [the] pit (Ezekiel 32).

So Tartarus would appear to be a form of solitary confinement (social death) for demons wherein they are cut off in a manner not dissimilar from the first death. Essentially Tartarus is a living angelic first death! But humans from the first death and angels from Tartarus both end up in the second death. 

Note1: In Matthew 25 in some translations (the NWT is quoted below) we read:

46 And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life (Matthew 25).

But again the Greek Word aiwnion literally means lasting for an age or age-long (Liddell and Scott). So we would translate this verse as:

46 And these will depart into age-long cutting-off, but the righteous ones into age-long life (Matthew 25).

The righteous ones are righteous in the flesh, since they were not in the true religion - see I28. So they do not have everlasting life, they have indefinitely lasting life. Only those righteous in the spirit have everlasting life. So we must translate aiwnion as meaning indefinitely lasting or age-lasting in the case of those getting life and that is its meaning also in he case of those getting cutting off.


There has been a long standing debate amongst criminologists between the proponents of retributive justice and the proponents of rehabilitative justice. The former group believe in punishment as a deterrent and for the sake of justice or vengeance. The latter believe in punishment for the sake of teaching. The above understanding shows us that God manages to combine both views, for he believes in punishment for all three reasons (A deterent, justice and rehabilitation). But he does not believe in punishment merely for vengeance or merely as a deterrent, there is always a lesson to be learned. God does not support punishment without teaching. He would never support a life sentence which leaves the criminal with no hope. Even Satan has no such sentence. But neither would he support 18 months in prison for rape. The penalty for murder or rape in the days from Adam to Moses was 7 years outside the camp, i.e. in prison if the camp is the whole country, as it is today. Not a day less and not a day more. The purpose of discipline is to teach. The reader may be asking why did God give a 7 year penalty for murder to the sons of Adam (Genesis 4:15), but a death sentence to the sons of Moses (Exodus 21:12). Since God's justice is supposed to be constant how can he be setting these two different punishments for the same crime? The answer would appear to be that death is a temporary imprisonment in any event. In fact one could use this argument to prove that there must be a resurrection from death, just as there is a release from prison. He that dies is only in a conscious prison for a few minutes (during his death and his resurrection).

But as regards those who abuse and who steal human life and those who persistently trash human love, everlasting death is too good for them, let them go to hell for 1,000 years! For there, by losing both of them, they will indeed learn the exceeding value of life and of love. In the present world, some children, such as the orphans of Beslan or of AIDS have never seen much love. One of the kids of Beslan said: There is no God. This is why God cannot permit this system to last much longer. Every child deserves a loving template and God will ensure that one way or another, in one system or the other, they get one.


Suicide bombers and politicians who damage or destroy innocent people's bodies in order to make political statements, or to maintain political power will not get 70,000 virgins when they die as some believe. They will not even get a physical body. Instead they will have 1,000 years of non corporeal existence in a sin bin from which they cannot possibly escape, in order to contemplate their misguided wickedness as they watch a lot more than 70,000 virgins in the kingdom of God loving and being loved by people who are not murderers. However God never leaves anyone without hope. There will be an early parole system for those who truly repent and learn the vital lessons that God is teaching us during the 1,000 year kingdom of God.


It is possible to get early parole from Gehenna, and be released from Hell into the Kingdom of God during the 1,000 years. Genesis 5 has the timetable for this early parole. 

31 Which of the 2 did the will of [his] father? They said: The latter. Jesus said to them: Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and the harlots are going ahead of you into the kingdom of God (Matthew 21).

So the tax collectors and harlots are released from Gehenna before the Pharisees.


The minimum sentence in Gehenna is 33½ years, the length of Adam's life before he sinned, the length of Jesus life before he paid for that sin

11 But I tell you that many from eastern parts and western parts will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens;
12 whereas the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside. There will be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth will be. (Matthew 8 NWT)

Gnashing of the teeth counts as 32x for 32 human teeth (using the sentence counting part of the bible code). Weeping counts as 1x, like walking of sleeping. But it is done with 2 eyes. so there is an argument for counting it as 2x making 33x/34x. This is the minimum sentence in years for the sons of the darkness.